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Originally posted by discoking:
i think the guys have great chemistry and leepu is amazingly talented.it all makes for great tv however if chop chop is a real commercial venture they need to think harder about the kind of stuff they do. sumo was great if a little larger than life but the red noddy limo with the boy racer seats was quite tacky and the surf car was plain ridiculous. how would it even go around a corner. i was saddened to see that none of their projects have sold apart from the jag based one (very cool) but not really surprised. what they need to do is more of the supercar type stuff like in bangla bangers ep1, only based on proper cars.

It turns like a lorry would

I love the show but I've gotta agree with Fin and Camden, the cars are downright dangerous. The spacers not only increase wear but have an adverse effect on handling and some of the suspension mods mean that the geometry is all skewed. (The jag was a prime example) The irony is that you can easily buy springs at the right tension and specify the length rather than cut down a set. Alternatively, springs are wound by heating and there are specialists who will rewind or retense springs.

I have no quarrel with either Leepu or Bernie. I love the old school 'special' type of approach to metalwork. I've built kit cars in this way but you've got to be careful if this is going to be a product that someone is going to buy.

With regard to SJM motors, congratulations on buying a car! I know I'm moaning, but I'd still buy one. However, I think there is one problem in particular that you might need to address: the car will need an SVA if you want to make it legal,as its chassis has undergone radical alterations. Just ask anyone who has built a Banham!!! (I have, I know - Your V5 won't be valid if it still still says the name, make and model of the donor car.)

Man we have alot of Crew Members

WELCOME

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Originally posted by Katy:
Watch out for the return of Bernie and Leepu!

Do you remember the two guys from Bangla Bangers? They're back with a new series, Chop Shop: London Garage, starting on Monday 8th October at 10pm.

Watch a preview of episode one at:
www.discoverychannel.co.uk/chopshop

If you can't wait for Monday, you can watch it online from Thurs 4 at Discovery On Demand:
www.discoveryondemand.co.uk

Enjoy!

Hay Katy
if you the admin captain is there a way i can do private chat it won't do it.
(PRIVATE MESSAGES I MEAN)

WELL FOLKS WE ALL WOULD APPEAR TO KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT MY CAR I THINK I SHOULD KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT, SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE TROUBLE SPELLING YET KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT MATERIAL STRENGTH, DESIGN, JAGUARS IN GENERAL AND EVEN THE LAW.
THE TIGER CAR DOES NOT NEED AN SVA TEST AS IT IS STILL JUST A XJS LIKE ANY OTHER, IT HAS NOT HAD ANY MODS THAT CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE CAR OR INDEED IT DOESNT NOW!!.
AS FOR THE COMMENTS ON HOW IT DRIVES I SUGGEST YOU ALL SAY VERY LITTLE UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE DRIVEN THE CAR BEFORE ME, AGAIN CHAPS I THINK WE ARE ALL MISSING THE POINT HERE, THIS IS NOT A MONDEO OR A PASSAT, IT IS SIMPLY A SHOW CAR AND THATS IT.

And some people dont know how to turn Caps lock off... (Only Jokin Fella)

All the best with the sale of the car on Ebay.

Wooah! Let's not make this personal. The forum is just for people to air their views. I, like others, believe that the suspension modifications coupled with the spacers leads to an unstable and potentially dangerous ride.( I remember serious incidents with racing Novas that didn't observe the obligatory 49mm offset) My years building kit cars, race cars and restoring classics lets me have this opinion with some authority. To attack people on grounds of their spelling is not what this forum is for.

With regards to SVA, I still believe that you will need one as I have had to undergo this process for heavily bodily modified cars before. (The roofline of the jag has been cut and radically altered, therefore changing the structural integrity of a monocoque) I know that this is definitely the case for Crayford style conversions. Rather than ask me, check with the DVLA. If not, then your insurance won't be valid. It is not meant to insult or take away from your car.

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ive got to agree .These cars may look great(a matter of opinion) But how anyone can say they are safe is beyond me . as previously mentioned the extra loads put on wheel bearings / stub axles has not been calculated. to increase a vehicles track by that amountwould require a complete rethink. the spacers may well be extremely well made and of very good material but as previously mentioned it is not these that are going to fail. if any of these cars were involved in an accident im sure the insurance would be void.unless of course they have been inspected by an independant motor vehicle engineer and all the modifications approved by the insurance company. anyway thats my oppinion. great tv show cars but not great road cars.

Have checked with an old friend at VOSA Leighton Buzzard. Given the fact that the roof was removed and then re-welded, that constitutes radical chassis modification as the car is indeed a monocoque Therefore, the car requires an SVA unless you intend for it not to be registered on the road. Don't want to make waves for you and I have no doubt that it would pass with flying colours, but you will need one.

The situation would be different if the car were, say, a beetle which has an independent chassis. I wonder if the owner of the Sumo that is for sale on e-bay has it registered properly.

Hi
ChopShop:London Garage ; A top programme, interesting to watch. Like the end results So Far. Will look forward to see More Design Concepts! without fail.
Like the Originality and Creativity ...Esp when 'Recycling' is the word.
In Future.. would love to see A competition..on Sending in your 'Own Concept Car Ideas' for a Chance to get the Car Built for Real!. jat

To be honest i own whats been voted as 5 time best civic coupe in the UK.
I personally think that Chop Shop is a disgrace. Leepu is an absolute butcher and hasnt got a feckin clue what he's doing and how in hell can they DA, fill, rub prime and prep a car in a day?? not a prayer.
They supposidly paint a car and take it to a show the same day, RUBBISH the paint wouldnt of cured properly for a start.
The paint-shop seem good but the rest is a joke.

Overhaulin' is a proper programme, decent jobs aswell.

Just seen the latest one! I love the programme but that car was lethal - I just hate to think what is going to happen to those front hubs with that negative camber. That can only increase when the suspension is under load. I know, I know, its only a show car but bear in mind that one day that might be coming a long the road in the opposite direction to you. Lets hope its as safe as they say.

Hi Guys,

Great show, not too sure how much of it I believe (paint a car in a day??) I would love someone to tell me how that Mk3 Fiesta handles with the front camber like that, and that engine conversion could have been so much easier (aka RS1800, but 2 Litre). Also the point about the wheel spacers is more about how far the bearing is from the centre line of the tyre surely??

Is it me or does anyone else think that they could do something more special with the engines and mods that they do. I mean come on, a couple of bolt on performance items that don't make much difference anyway??

Great looking cars in the end and the guys work really hard, so mustn't loose sight of that.

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Originally posted by Bernie the bolt:

Hi Camden thanks for your comments, when you can spell, and if your mechanics are like your spelling, i would not like you to repair my car, you have little understanding of aerodynamics or forces on metal, look at the programme again, see the centre of gravity set up, then reply with a logical answer, untill then enjoy the shows and dream on Bernie

This can't be the 'Bernie' surely???? If it is then welcome buddy. (Though I doubt it) I thought this was a place where we engaged in lively discussion about mechanics, not slate one another for our poor spelling. Since when did being able to spell mean you could repair a car? (Nor indeed, our multi line, multiple apostrophe single sentences! Just kidding! )He who casts the first stone and all that...

What do you guys talk about in here?

Hi Mr Taxi
Thank you for the wonderfull compliments, keep watching and enjoying, as long as we make you smile, and, bring a little joy to life, plus the odd swear word and dissagreament with each other, our jobs complete
Best regards
Bernie ( Bernie and Leepu Chop shop garage)
AND YES this is Bernie the bald bastard x

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Originally posted by TaxiDriver:
More Leepu & Bernie!!!

Absolutely brilliant viewing, I enjoyed it so much…

Though I was sorry to see the upset re: fire at garage.

Last month I was going to cancel my TV subscription, which is through Virgin Media, until I saw the trailer for chop shop. I had previously seen Bangla Bangers and thought that was some of the best TV I had ever seen…So I kept the virgin media package going just for chop shop, and I am not disappointed!

I demand discovery channel plan for another series of Leepu & Bernie! Or I'll cancel my subscription!

Keep going Bernie & Leepu!!!

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Originally posted by camden:
i came into the motor trade some 40 years ago and i own 3 jag's at this time a xjs a xjc and a searies 2 4.2 so i think i have some idear of what i am saying,

Really? Perhaps then you should reread your post and correct the multitude of spelling/grammar mistakes you've made. You write like a 9 year old and certainly not like someone who has been around for over 40 years! It's a bit too difficult to take you seriously I'm afraid!

Hey,

Could anybody give me a contact phone number for the chop shop: London garage please? i would like to contact Bernie regarding some business id like to do with them, i have searched the internet and web directories and have been unable to come up with the information i need.

Many thanks indeed.

Hi Andy
You can contact me at berniefineman@hotmail.com......... i dont hide from anyone so there it is folks send and receive just like Chop Shop
Best regards
Bernie Fineman ( the good looking bald one in Chop Shop)
ps. and spurious or nasty mail will be sent to mail director and you will be blacklisted, any compliments comments or kisses will be answered xxBernie

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Originally posted by Swiftmed:
Hey,

Could anybody give me a contact phone number for the chop shop: London garage please? i would like to contact Bernie regarding some business id like to do with them, i have searched the internet and web directories and have been unable to come up with the information i need.

Many thanks indeed.

[
Bernie Fineman ( the good looking bald one in Chop Shop)
ps. and spurious or nasty mail will be sent to mail director and you will be blacklisted, any compliments comments or kisses will be answered xxBernie

Blimey! Good looking? Bernie, that's spurious - get yourself blacklisted at once! (Hee hee!)