Besides trying to hide beneath a cover of RESEARCH for killing whales, what about the mass killing of dolphins?

Come on everyone, go watch "The Cove" and see what unfortunately the Japanese are really about.

So sometimes, since the governments won't do anything about it beause they want to always be "Politically Correct", it takes someone with the courage to stand up for defenseless animals, like SSCS.

The governments won't do anything about it is because governments generally mind their own business. Most countries don't like other countries telling them what to do, what to eat, how they should live their lives. When they do it usually leads to wars. Second when you have morons like the Sea Monkey floating around the ocean using violence towards other countries vessels the powers that be frown upon that.They see it particularly now on Whale Wars, and they see people they will not deal with. They have no credibility when they use violence. So because of this the powers that be will never listen to anyone like the Sea Monkeys. And in this country we don't negotiate with terrorists.
What about dolphins you ask. Well what about lobster, sharks, king crab, squid, tuna, deer, elk, bear, moose, wolf, the Kurds, the Jews, the children. What about whales. Why are some creatures more important than others? If you want to see what the Japanese are really about maybe you should go to Japan and find out instead of watching a slanted movie. You want to hate Japan watch Pearl Harbor. People actually died Dec. 7 1941. And on 9-11-2001 in case you forgot. Whales are not going extinct so don't worry. And if they do, well there won't be any more whaling will there. Oh and animals are not defenseless.

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The governments won't do anything about it is because governments generally mind their own business. Most countries don't like other countries telling them what to do, what to eat, how they should live their lives. When they do it usually leads to wars. Second when you have morons like the Sea Monkey floating around the ocean using violence towards other countries vessels the powers that be frown upon that.They see it particularly now on Whale Wars, and they see people they will not deal with. They have no credibility when they use violence. So because of this the powers that be will never listen to anyone like the Sea Monkeys. And in this country we don't negotiate with terrorists.
What about dolphins you ask. Well what about lobster, sharks, king crab, squid, tuna, deer, elk, bear, moose, wolf, the Kurds, the Jews, the children. What about whales. Why are some creatures more important than others? If you want to see what the Japanese are really about maybe you should go to Japan and find out instead of watching a slanted movie. You want to hate Japan watch Pearl Harbor. People actually died Dec. 7 1941. And on 9-11-2001 in case you forgot. Whales are not going extinct so don't worry. And if they do, well there won't be any more whaling will there. Oh and animals are not defenseless.

I don't think most people on here who don't agree with whaling hate Japan....

I don't hate Japan. It's irrationally to hate a whole country just because of something that some people from Japan do. And I like Japan for a lot of other things. I just don't like the whaling, or the killing of dolphins.

Also, some species are considered more valuable, yes. Some animals have a higher intelligence level than others, don't reproduce as much, can't be killed in as humane a way, etc.

Not to mention hating Japan for Pearl Harbour....that happened a really long time ago. Most of the people who did that aren't even alive anymore. That would be like hating Germany for the Nazis even though that was a long time ago and most Germans really hate what their country did back then.

Anyway, if lobsters were endangered I'm sure people would care too.....and if they were really smart and didn't breed much. And for the record, I do like lobsters....I couldn't bring myself to kill one myself. However, I realize that it's reasonable to eat them, and I eat one about once or twice a year(although I'd never be able to kill one myself) but I just think killing whales is unreasonable and yes animals are pretty defensless in most cases when it comes to humans.

Well Japan started whaling hundreds of years ago. They are not extinct yet, nor are the ones they are hunting today near extinction. Most Japanese eat whale to this day. Is it wrong? Not to them. So who are you to place your morals onto another country, ethnicity, culture.
What if some group started attacking you and throwing acid at your car because you eat carrots? Who are they to tell you what to eat? You probably wouldn't like it much.
As for intellegence pigs are just as smart if not smarter than whales. So are sheep. They know when they are going to be slaughtered. They cry and scream. Have you ever seen this I have. But boy they sure taste good for breakfast don't they.
Hindus don't eat cows because they are sacred to them but they don't come over here telling us not to eat them. Because they understand other cultures are different and they are tolerant of those who eat cow. Just like everyone should be tolerant of the Japanese, Norway,Iceland and anywhere else they like whale meat. I won't kill a whale either but it tastes good.
If whales were truly intellegent then why are they so stupid to swim along side of boats to get killed. If it were a mistake on they whales part any intellegent creature would tell the other whales to stay away from boats. Matbe they're not as smart as people give them credit for. I think pigs are far smarter than whales.
Oh you didn't have an excuse for 9-11-2001.

So having a quota to kill over 20,000 dolphins sounds normal, I sure can tell who is Japanese and who isnt.

Whales arent defenseless. When it is tilted

whale vs harpoon powered by a gun, hmmmm let me think, who will win that one?

Get serious. Sort of like a human with a bazooka vs. a child with a bb gun.

I never sad anything about killing dolphins being normal or right. You might want to learn to read then learn to comprehend what you read.
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whale vs harpoon powered by a gun, hmmmm let me think, who will win that one?
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If it weren't overwhelming it would be cruel.
The idea is to kill them.
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Get serious. Sort of like a human with a bazooka vs. a child with a bb gun
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And you tell me to get serious? I can sure tell who the retarded people are. I'm glad I'm a Jap.

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Well Japan started whaling hundreds of years ago. They are not extinct yet, nor are the ones they are hunting today near extinction. Most Japanese eat whale to this day. Is it wrong? Not to them. So who are you to place your morals onto another country, ethnicity, culture.
What if some group started attacking you and throwing acid at your car because you eat carrots? Who are they to tell you what to eat? You probably wouldn't like it much.
As for intellegence pigs are just as smart if not smarter than whales. So are sheep. They know when they are going to be slaughtered. They cry and scream. Have you ever seen this I have. But boy they sure taste good for breakfast don't they.
Hindus don't eat cows because they are sacred to them but they don't come over here telling us not to eat them. Because they understand other cultures are different and they are tolerant of those who eat cow. Just like everyone should be tolerant of the Japanese, Norway,Iceland and anywhere else they like whale meat. I won't kill a whale either but it tastes good.
If whales were truly intellegent then why are they so stupid to swim along side of boats to get killed. If it were a mistake on they whales part any intellegent creature would tell the other whales to stay away from boats. Matbe they're not as smart as people give them credit for. I think pigs are far smarter than whales.
Oh you didn't have an excuse for 9-11-2001.

Why is 9/11 even a part of this discussion though anyway? It has nothing to do with killing whales.

Also, the whales seem to know when a ship is out to kill them. That's why those whales were swimming so fast to get away on that episode of Whale Wars. They are smart enough to know when a boat is not one of the friendly boats.

And at least pigs and cows and sheep can be raised on farms and breed. You can not breed whales. It all depends on the wild. They should just be left alone.

For the record I would be vegetarian if I could but it would actually be unhealthy for me.

They are in the wild. Man is a natural predetor.
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Also, the whales seem to know when a ship is out to kill them. That's why those whales were swimming so fast to get away on that episode of Whale Wars. They are smart enough to know when a boat is not one of the friendly boats
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contradicting yourself again!
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And at least pigs and cows and sheep can be raised on farms and breed. You can not breed whales. It all depends on the wild. They should just be left alone
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So if we could pen up the whales then it would cease being wrong? Because pigs were once on their own in the wild?

Oh, people died at Pearl Harbor and 9-11 but you only seem to care about animals not people.

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Approximately 20,000 small type cetaceans are hunted in Japan every year, according to the Catch and Seizure Regulations of the Fisheries Agency. There are mainly three hunting methods: hand-held harpooning, the drive hunt which includes driving of a pod of dolphins into a bay with several fishing boatman's hand slaughtering them, and the small type coastal whaling with a boat mounted with a harpoon gun.

In the small fishing village of Taiji, entire schools of dolphins are driven into a hidden cove after a prolonged chase. Once trapped inside the cove, the fishermen kill the dolphins, slashing their throats with knives or stabbing them with spears. The water turns red with their blood, and the air fills with their screams.

This brutal massacre — the largest scale dolphin kill in the world — goes on for six months of every year. Dolphin species are not suitable for commercial use due to their low fecundity; their gestation period is 10-17 months bearing only one calf at most once per year. Even more scandalous, members of the international dolphin display industry take advantage of the dolphin slaughter to obtain some few, show-quality dolphins for use in captive dolphin shows and dolphin swim programs.

When the International Whaling Commission (IWC) implemented an international whaling moratorium, the price of dolphin meat soared, as it became a substitute for whale meat. In addition, dolphin species have remained outside the IWC's jurisdiction, inviting more fishermen who are seeking for a new economic source. The dolphin catch continues to increase.

Also most dolphins in aquariums are captured by the drive-fishery, usually when they were still calves. The family members of the captured calves are killed for their meat. Those that are captured are faced to live the rest of their lives in small confinement. However, since new dolphins can be supplied easily by the drive-fishery, they are treated as almost, disposable. As identifying each dolphin and telling them apart is a hard task for an untrained eye, it is not clear how many dolphins in captivity die and get replaced every year. Information on such dolphin circulation is not open to the public.

The time has come to end this slaughter and to do this we MUST shut down Taiji. The rest will fall like domino's, as international whaling did.

The new released movie "The Cove" has gotten the ball rolling and we are responsible to keep it going and end the dolphin hunts for once and for all! Already we have seen ties been severed with Taiji which is adding increasing pressure onto Japans Government.

This pressure is only good if we can keep it on them all the time!

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I encourage everyone to write to the following emails and express your concern:

Mr. Shoichi Nakagawa,
email: webmaster@meti.go.jp
Fax: +81-3-3501-6942

Mr.Kazutaka Sangen,
email: taiji@town.taiji.wakayama.jp
Fax: +81-735-59-2801

Mr Yoshiki Kimura
email: 30006001@pref.wakayama.lg.jp

Embassy of Japan,
Washington DC,
Tel: (202) 238-6700
Fax: (202) 238-2187
email: jicc@embjapan.org

REF FRED SSCS

USA kills approximately 100,000 cows per day, or 35 million cows a year.

Australia kills 3 million kangaroos a year. The country also kills 9-10 million cows.

Should I write a letter to AU embassy? How about USA? A letter to Obama would suffice?

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Australia kills 3 million kangaroos a year.

Their commercial quota last year was 3.5 million

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Their commercial quota last year was 3.5 million

Is that right? Aussies kill 3,500,000 roos? Roos are tourist attractions, and national symbols for them, aren't they? They kill 3.5 millions of their own symbols?

I think Japanese people will take Australians a little more seriously if they stop killing roos. Until them, Japan will simply laugh at them as hypocrites.

If you have problems with killing animals, stop killing cows, pigs, chickens, sheep, roos etc. Do not make money by exporting live stocks.If you cannot stop it, just shut up.

First off Aussies are as concerned for their kangaroos as anyone else would be. There are harvested culls on a few species, but kangaroo culling/killing

Second thing, killing kangaroos ( regardless of where one stands on this thought process or issue ) affects Australia. It is an Australian concern.
Whales do not belong to Japan. They are international, and the international community has said "No dice" to Japan's little poaching episodes! So First Japan's whalers can stop and appologize to the world for killing all of our whales! Not just Japan's whales!

Lastly Sharks and Cetaceans are the key to human existance and survival in the next 40 years or less. Their deaths are triggering a Global mass extinction event that will kill us all off. This is a scientific fact
Anyone killing sharks and cetaceans are WEECs ( World Extinction Event Criminals ) and anyone supporting or advocating the death of all humans by siding with Japan. .

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Whales do not belong to Japan. They are international,

I didn't know that. Do they carry international passports or something?

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the international community has said "No dice" to Japan's little poaching episodes!

Which international community? Poaching is illegal hunting, but you have never ever singled out a law that verifies your claim.

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So First Japan's whalers can stop and appologize to the world for killing all of our whales! Not just Japan's whales!

Kill all of YOUR whales? When did this happen?

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Lastly Sharks and Cetaceans are the key to human existance and survival in the next 40 years or less. Their deaths are triggering a Global mass extinction event that will kill us all off.

You must be a cult member. Which cult group do you belong to? Also, I hear that shark hunting is a sport in Australia. Are they contributing to the doomsday thing?

Are all the cows and kangaroos shot and made to suffer 15-30 minutes?

If so, there would be a huge outcry.

BELIEVE IT

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USA kills approximately 100,000 cows per day, or 35 million cows a year.

Australia kills 3 million kangaroos a year. The country also kills 9-10 million cows.

Should I write a letter to AU embassy? How about USA? A letter to Obama would suffice?

Writing a letter to Obama (Saddam) is like writing a letter to Osama Bin Laden.

Neither truly cares for their country, they only believe in taking over, and forcing their own agendas.

Obama doesn't have the nuts to stand up for what America really is (land of the free), because he isn't truly an American, nor believes in the constitution, so why would he care about anything that is right.

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Are all the cows and kangaroos shot and made to suffer 15-30 minutes?

Most cows, pigs, chickens etc live a horrible life. Chickens spend all their life in a space of a letter size paper without seeing the sun. Pigs cannot even support its weight because they are forced to grow up. I am afraid that 15-30 min does not even begin to describe the life we force them to have.

Yet, some people do not complain about that.

Antiantiwhaler this is an excellent issue cows, pigs and chickens are forced to live in horrible conditions. There are people fighting to change these conditions as well. There is a big movement to switch to free range animals.
It is obvious though that you only bring this up to confuse the issue. Many people are concerned because the fishing industry as a whole has proven itself incapable of the self control necessary to prevent overfishing. The tuna, cod and whale populations have been devastated.
It is time to reduce our impact on the ocean.

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It is obvious though that you only bring this up to confuse the issue.

No, I do not do it. I do it because SSCS are hypocrite. On Yangtze River in China, the Three Gorges Dam was built. This will result in the extinction of the Baiji dolphin and the Yangtze sturgeon. Where were SS members?

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Many people are concerned because the fishing industry as a whole has proven itself incapable of the self control necessary to prevent overfishing.

and whaling is by far much more conservative than fishing.

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here are people fighting to change these conditions as well

Do those people throw chemicals at the meat factory? Are they cheering and laughing? Is it funny to act violently against people working legally? Do they bring along camera crews to shoot a biased show?

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It is time to reduce our impact on the ocean.

You can do it by not allowing 30 year old ship with unqualified people on it.

GO SSCS