Here is one from good old Brainiac (but I don't trust the science on Brainiac - sorry!).

You know some people believe if you play an audio recording of say a foreign language learning tape in your bedroom while you sleep you will acually learn some of that language.

Any truth in this myth???

There may be truth in the myth, I'm not sure. But I remember seeing a cartoon featuring this, and something happened, causing the tape to play the same phrase continually, and when the character in question woke up, that phrase was all he could say.

I can't blame you for not trusting Brainiac, the host is, after all, a boy racer type guy, and as a classic car fan, I don't trust them.

sveral studies both here in the uk and in the U.S of A have officially disproved subliminal tapes completely, they did this by sending tapes to people who oedered them, but changing labels, so people ordering a "stop smoking" tape would actually get something else like "learn conversational french2 then when they got up, the urge to smoke was less, even thoug h they had just been listening to french all night, proving that people that believe in the tapes just do what the label says nomatter what is on the tape. busted!

Myth busted then...

Still like to see Kari in her PJs doing testing this one though...

im not sure but i would say no to it it would be good to see it be put on air

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Originally posted by Jimbo Bagins:
(i`m not questioning your age just giving an example) anyway 30 years old with a mental age of about 3 years old

Care to rewrite in English?

i have to say
nothing on the myth
mythbusters is sooo much better than brainiac
because mythbusters gives answers to myths that are useful to everyday life.
Brainiac is just intent on blowing up caravans.

Maybe it works but anything that you learn will be imprinted on your subconsious mind! So in theory only your subconious mind will have improved. Hypnotising someone who has tried this form of learning could be a way of finding out if they have indeed learned anything.
(Is hypnotism possible? For this to work the person needs to have a belief in the suggestablity for it to work.)
Brainiac is not trying to be mythbusters or vice versa, both are good shows. Blowing caravans up has a science to it.

Yes, while your sleeping, your subconcious is only "on", but when something arises, when you are awake in your concious state, and triggers your subconcious to remember certain things, you will remember what you learned. Like you sleep learn German, but don't remember it. You go to Germany and people start speaking in german. You will have awakened your subconcious by going into an environment where what you learned is exposed to you, and so you will have remembered what you learned in your sleep. this is why hypnopaedia (sleep learning) works best with languages.

Erik, if you're still around, the cartoon was Dexter's Laboratory, and the phrase was "Cheese Omlette" in French.

Actually, the Myth is true. I got into anime a while back, and got a soundtrack with all of the top Japanese Anime theme songs on it. I listened to it to fall asleep every night for about a week, and realized that I knew the songs word for word. I couldn't understand what they were saying, of course, but I figure if I had been listening to one of those that says a phrase in English and then in another language, I'd have memorized it just the same way.

Learning while sleeping sounds very plausible to me.

As far as I know hearing is one of the senses that is still active while sleeping.

First off though you will have to define "sleep". It is a bit tricky as this is not the same thing for everyone. There are more levels and some people stay longer or shorter time at some levels than others.

Can I suggest a little detour for this myth? It is now possible to buy music composed especially for getting well. If nothing else music like this will block out some of the scarey hospital noice while the patient is sleeping. But does it really help a terminally ill person?

I tried buying a CD from http://www.musicure.com/default.asp?lang=uk
when my ex-girlfriends uncle was dying from cancer. I like to think that it helped him. Perhaps he was just being polite when he said so.

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Originally posted by Erik:
There may be truth in the myth, I'm not sure. But I remember seeing a cartoon featuring this, and something happened, causing the tape to play the same phrase continually, and when the character in question woke up, that phrase was all he could say.

I can't blame you for not trusting Brainiac, the host is, after all, a boy racer type guy, and as a classic car fan, I don't trust them.

I am seriously considering taking personal offence what is all this about not trusting classic car fans? Its like thinking people with glasses are geniuses.... or any other myth to that effect....


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Originally posted by mikisan:
sveral studies both here in the uk and in the U.S of A have officially disproved subliminal tapes completely, they did this by sending tapes to people who oedered them, but changing labels, so people ordering a "stop smoking" tape would actually get something else like "learn conversational french2 then when they got up, the urge to smoke was less, even thoug h they had just been listening to french all night, proving that people that believe in the tapes just do what the label says nomatter what is on the tape. busted!

Maybe these people were not good test cases as if they were so tired they were asleep before the tape even started I would guess they were definately over worked.

I think the mythbuster's already do a test on this type of myth, bu that time the topic was about hypnosis....

I tried this one! And the answer is, BUSTED!
It is possible to implant some information, but not anything of any real detail. The problem is that only some vague recollection, or feelings surface to the conscious. If for example, you embed information about a guy called Pete, then the subject will have this nagging puzzle in their mind, who on earth is Pete? They will remember some details, but only vaguely. Having said that, enough information sinks in that it certainly is possible to bend a persons mind to some extent. I suspect how much depends onthe subject though. I experimented once with someone who was a sleep walker, they would hold a conversation in their sleep!!! They were highly sugggestable. You could easirly affect their mood for days by suggesting various things in their sleep.