afetr watching the "ice bullet" and its revisit, i started wondering,

could a bullet made of bone work?

i think that a projectile made of bone, or perhaps a similar material, like tooth, that would shatter on or shortly after impact, leaving little or no useable ballistic evidence.

of course, its impossible to say how much damage it would do, or its effective range, but this one interests me, probably because i thought of it, im very pompous.

Wouldn't you still have splinters of bone left in the body or near the scene? The myth states that there would be 'NO' evidence left since the ice bullet would melt.

Would using bone be any different to using say hard glass or certain types of plastics etc. for bullets? There would be evidence.

i do think think that a bone bullet would work because of the simple fact that there would be a small peise of bone left in the the body which could be track back to the shooter.

but saying that a meat bullet would work, meaning a bullet made from a a peice of meat frozzen in liquid nitrogen. i think that would work because if it stays in the body the meat would melt and then be hidden in side the body.

the idea is that the piece of bone would shatter, both causing damage, and making it harder to trace by removing any rifling or similar evidence.

even if the bullet was recoverd, police have never dealt with a bullet of bone, so it would be much harder to trace.

Bone has been used in "Dum Dum" rounds before. Not human bone mine you. These day's a form of carbon is used. The origanal programe stipulated they they were tesing something that would vanish and not be simmiler to a 'real' bullet. "Dum Dums" are real. In fact that chap sitting at the back of the plane with a dark suit and a badge reading F.B.I or Mossad will have them in his gun.

are you reffering o the ammunition that air martials use?

they use low velocity ammunition, which is hollowed out and filled with tiny lead balls, designed to be released on impact, which will kill a human but not go through him.

The best way to make un-traciable bullets is skin the outside in a thin, very brittle steel and fill the inside with porcelin

Hmmm.

1. ALL bullets are "un-traceable" if the weapon from which they were fired is not registered to the shooter & destroyed or discarded immediately after firing. Crime Scene Investigators get nervous at any shooting if they find the weapon at the scene - because if it can't be traced to the shooter, and they can't be caught with it on their person, then ballistics evidence is useless.

2. One of the latest trends I've heard of is to shoot discarding sabot ammunition. You hear of hit-men collecting their spent brass, so as not to leave evidence at the scene, but it can be rather difficult to collect the used bullet, particularly if it is still in the target's body. But you can easily collect the spent sabot, thus removing ALL the ballistics evidence - when fired in a sabot, the bullet never makes contact with the barrel, so carries no evidentiary markings.

3. ANYTHING which does make contact with the barrel will collect ballistics evidence. Beckband's brittle steel-jacketed porcelain projectile, (?) will shatter on impact, but a good mortuary technician will collect all the little shards of the steel jacket and the ballistician will piece them together to "read" the striations left by the barrel. Another post refers to the ammo used by air-marshals, using many tiny lead balls, cast in resin and encased in a thin copper jacket - I've seen a shot from this type of ammo matched to the gun by the striations found in the several pieces of the copper jacket recovered from the body.

4. The original ice-bullet myth, (fairly comprehensively busted, I might add,) involved a projectile which would completely dissolve, leaving no trace at all, even throwing in to doubt whether the target had actually been shot at all. I have two thoughts on this.

A) As has been discussed at exhaustive length on this site before, the only means by which this might, theoretically, be possible, is to insulate the frozen projectile from both the heat of the propellant gasses, and the friction caused by high-velocity travel down the barrel. Although nobody has yet tried to experiment with it, I believe the only way this might be achieved is using discarding sabots in a large-bore air-weapon.

B) Why the hell would you want to? If the object is to evade capture, even if the Police can't prove someone was shot, or what with, they still have a body, and someone killed it. You can be damned sure they are going to investigate it! Which being the case, there are, as previously discussed, any number of ways of killing, and indeed shooting, someone, without leaving anything of any evidentiary value behind in the process, using methods and components which are relatively easily obtainable, without going to the inordinate lengths of creating an ice-bullet.

The simple, if rather sad fact is, that people are killed every day, using methods and weapons which leave the authorities unable to identify or prosecute the perpetrator afterwards. The only conceivable reason why anyone would want a mythical "disappearing bullet" at all, is because it looks sexy in a movie!

The bullet they were trying to recreate was actualy made from MEAT which was dipped in liquid nitrogen. the meat bullet contained a cylinder of copper which was designed to shatter into shards upon impact. the purpose of the frozen meat was simply to thaw within the body after the package was delivered, there-by removing any ballistic evidence.

End of story.